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. that is it for us. have a great weekend, everyone. >> john: another weekend no, deal on the fiscal cliff. how close one is depends on whom you believe. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> john: good evening. i'm john roberts in for bret baier this evening. deadlock, gridlock, stalemate, whatever you call it. most people in washington seem to think we are there. we have just four more weekends to go before america goes over the most talked about piece ovate i of real estn the world, the fiscal cliff. ed henry tells us not everyone is pessimistic. >> reporter: literally snapping his fingers, vice president joe biden today suggested it will be easy to finish a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> greg: speaker bane -- >> reporter: speaker john boehner not so optimistic. >> this is not a progress report, th
signs of some serious talking when it comes to taking care of the fiscal cliff. >> jessica doyle is here with more on the growing fears about what could happen if the stop signs aren't thrown up in time. >> good morning to both of you. we continue to see the situation play out like a high stakes game of chicken. the white house is saying publicly it will let the nation go over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't fall in line with the president's demands to raise taxes on the rich. the g.o.p. is pointing fingers, too. you don't have to look too hard in washington these days to see the fiscal cliff theater. >> nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> our goal is to make sure it gets solved. >> the president is ready, willing and able, waiting to be able to sit down and seriously negotiate this. but they have to be willing to come to the table with specifics. >> the next 72 hours are critical. if he sits back and continues to play politics, that will give your answer where we're going. >> some lawmakers are actually going back home to their districts. congress has little scheduled b
the fiscal cliff negotiations. it is not painful until the very end of the year. how this benefits the company. adam: the note dropped 7.7%, the lowest rate since december 2008. that is just a headline. let's get to nicole petallides. the traders are reading a bit into this report. nicole: the first thing they noted when i came in here, a lot of them are talking about the fact that the prior month had been revised lower. the prior month which seemed like they were good news, in fact, were not as good as they seemed. they take these numbers with a grain of salt. the dow, nasdaq and s&p are mixed today. the dow is up about one third of 1%. what is interesting, this will be our third wedding week in a row. they have not been dramatic moves, but last week was pretty slots. jpmorgan and bank of america are some names on the dow that are holding on pretty nicely. the tech heavy nasdaq down one half of 1%. adam: a lot of people watching that jobs number. thank you very much. dennis: according to today's jobs report, the unemployment rate is down to 7.7%. the lowest level it has been to si
the fiscal cliff. dave: an exciting our coming up. we will tell you what drove the markets today with today's data download. of next week on wall street following better than expected november jobs report. the dow and s&p ending prior to eke out weekly gains, the nasdaq closed in the red ending down 1% a lot of that because of what happened to apple. financial and industrial for this week's top performing sectors while materials and technology lad a bit. the u.s. economy added 146,000 jobs in november as the unemployment rate dropped to four year low of 7.7%. today's report may not be as strong as it seemed, reporting employers added 49,000 fewer jobs in september and october than initially estimated. a preliminary reading showing consumer confidence plunging to its lowest level in four months. early december americans prepare for a potentially higher taxes at the beginning of next year. the index dropping 74.5 this month, far below november's reading of 82.7 and economists forecasts of 82.4. >> in the pits of the cme, michael tells us why dividend paying stocks are taught play regardless o
.s. falls off the fiscal cliff, speaker john bain ser slamming the brakes on any hopes a deal is coming soon, making it clear both sides have differences. second in command, eric cantor warning members not to make any plan for holidays, and kevin brady of texas, vice chairman of joint economic committee, thank you, are we still that far apart? >> you know we are. i started optimistic to get this done before the holidays, but, i don't feel that way, it seems to me the decision has been made, perhaps by white house to take us off this fiscal cliff. i think this is irresponsible to do it we're ready to work out a reasonable sound solution but i do not see that coming from the other side right now. tracy: is it because there is so much going on behind scenes. they think there is a lot of secret wheeling and dealing with john boehner and the president do you agree? >> i do not, i think he -- they have been sporadic talks, i know speaker boehner has been frustrated with how slow the responses have been. again, you know, not just tax rates it is authentic spending cuts, if we don't find a way to fa
nd. >>> i just want to get this out of the way. fiscal cliff. i said it. i know you've heard it. a lot. but it turns out you might not have heard it enough because after another week without real progress in washington, the possibility of plunging off that cliff is become iing more of a reality and we're just tu 22 days and counting, but for the first time in ore three weeks, president obama and house speaker john boehner actually stood in the same room. they breathed the same air, folks, and they talked and that's a big deal. especially since there's been so little of that going on lately. after the meeting, spokesman for both boehner and the president issued identical statements. that's nice. simply saying the line of communication remain open. that is promising according to former white house chief of staff erskine bowles. >> they've started to tango now and anytime you've got two guys tangoing. you've got a chance to get it done. >> how are the warnings affecting you? the american consumer. in the last few weeks, we have seen record shopping and black friday sales. we've als
of going over the fiscal cliff. let's get you updated on the market as we do every 15 minutes, stocks now. let's go to the floor of the new york stock exchange. the market having a good day today. nicole: indeed. we have been over the 13,300 mark but still holding onto stellar games, lori and melissa. so up triple digits up 110 points so really is a nice showing. 28 of the 30 dow components in the green. we heard from house speaker john boehner. the overall sentiment after he spoke is a few negative pieces of language in his speech that ultimately in the end he was trying to say they're trying to work it out. smooth it over, ultimately. they know a couple of trends we are seeing, technology, materiall, two areas coming under pressure recently starting to turn. europe seeing improvement helping equities along as well. lori: not sure if you mentioned the fed. we were talking about it at the top. talking about their expectations of ben bernanke. nicole: would even throw out the idea of stimulus? that helped things along pushing us along throughout this entire last six months. lori: absolutel
in portland. thanks, jay. >>> turning now to politics and the fiscal cliff negotiation. president obama and speaker boehner are keeping an open dialogue. speaking on the phone yesterday after trading secret proposals to avoid the year-end deadline. with few details revealed, officials say the president lowered his initial asking price on tax cuts to $1.4 trillion. president boehner took his displeasure to the house floor. >> we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> president obama responded, showing republicans where they could find the details. >> it's not a mystery. we've seen this before. this is the document that contains the specific spending cuts. the speaker of the house sent us a proposal that was two pages long that included one sentence on revenue. the proposal here includes, i believe from pages 17 to
" this morning -- that is a little bit from "politico" on that fiscal cliff. david, thank you for holding. caller: yes, good morning. host: what do you think about hillary clinton could go future? caller: i do not think she will run. [indiscernible] we have the man that we need [indiscernible] we are not working. there is no way the government can be supported. host: that was david from georgia them but we are able to bring you some live events to date on c-span. this afternoon, the annual christmas tree lighting. the president will be there. that will be live at 4:30 p.m. eastern time. you will be able to see the lights on the national christmas tree. that is held right in front of the white house just south of the white house. jay on our boat page says -- says -- page scott is an independent from florida. caller: good afternoon, c-span. i am going to say some things you probably do not want to hear but there are the truth about hillary clinton. i think she is very intelligent and on top of her game. when i look back at her career when her husband was president, we were having attacks on our and
in sight for the fiscal cliff hanger. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another wee>> why speaker says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> the feds are borrowing nearly a billion dollars a day. so why is the white house saying reducing our debt not really the goal? >> thank you, eric, it's the most watched video on the internet of all time. he is set to perform for the president. gangnam style said about our soldiers a few years ago. that controversy kicking up this morning. "fox & friends" hour one begins right now. >> get out the coffee. wake up, everyone, thank you so much for waking up with tus, it is "fox & friends" on this saturday morning. dave bowling in for dave briggs. >> come in and do the show with us today. more filling in today than the regulars. we are glad to be on with you clayton. >> you are on an interesting morning because congress now just 23 days left, 23 days until we head off that flif. fiscal cliff. if you listened to speaker boehner yesterday he is reading reports th
close to this fiscal cliff, both sides agreeing to get serious. we have heard the house speaker will update us on the talks within that hour from house floor. we will hear what speaker banner has to say. joining us right now are to congressman. would you vote if there was an agreement? >> i think it will be a balanced plan that will increase revenues by raising the rates on upper income families, but, at the same time, agreeing to substantial cuts. connell: the reason i started by asking that question is because i am sure it is frustrating, the members of congress to not be involved in this. this is two guys behind closed doors. what about from your side of it. will the speaker have the votes, even if he gives in? >> we do not know. as you suggested, you cannot have 218 or 435 or 535 people in a room trying to negotiate. this is the way you kind of have to do it. one on one. he needs 217 other people in the house and 60 people in the senate to make that deal because law and actually ring that deal through. i do not think there is any guarantees either way. connell: what cannot b
for a break because i think that video is just what washington needs to crack the whole fiscal cliff thing wide-open. all i'm saying is i think it has the power to bring people together simpson style. that's it for us. thanks for watching. "early start" begins now. >>> new this morning, tanks and personnel carriers stationed outside the presidential palace in egypt, clashes turning deadly overnight. rage at the new leader fears he may become the old leader. we're live from outside the palace in 30 seconds. >>> plus new reports that syria is putting chemical components in bombs. the details, straight ahead. >>> as of this morning for the first time in the history of our country, it is now legal to smoke pot for recreational purposes in a state and we are there for the pot party. good morning, welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans in for john berman this thursday morning. >> i bet you never thought you'd say that, live at a pot party. >>> good morning to you, i'm zoraida sambolin, 5:00 a.m. in the east here. >>> tension has quickly turned to deadly violence in egypt. this morning, t
'm larry custody low. this is kwoez custody. all right. some possible optimism on the fiscal cliff. the gop seems to be in a strategic retreat and is likely to allow middle class tax cut bill to pass before december 31. now that's what my washington contacts are telling me. there are many bells and whistles. i believe that's likely. the president went to detroit today to send the fiscal plan and came out against the michigan right to work effort like he did in wisconsin and he's going to lose this one in michigan. meanwhile the economy and jobs are improving but the use of budget busting food stamps continues to soar. could the aggressive food stamp reason why? wait until you hear some of the radio ads. >>> proeb jumped head first into a right to work law today in michigan. eamon javers has the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. we are monitoring fiscal cliff talks. it's been radio silence from democrats and republicans in washington. they're sticking to preagreed upon talking points explaining that lines of communication are open. we don't know what it is speaker baner and b
on the fiscal cliff. here's the wall street journal -- but then here's the "washington times this morning with their deadline -- headline -- so those are two headlines on house speaker john boehner and how he is doing in the fiscal cliff tops. headline is the president and the speaker both press each other. so that the latest in the back and forth on the fiscal cliff talks. the polls out, this is one from gallup. and the new york post shows this poll -- back to our topic, our question, do you support or oppose right-to-work laws? paul in utica, michigan, democrat. caller: i live in suburban detroit. i am a retired union worker, not automotive, by the way. i don't think my union is a thug in any way, but i think it's a sad day for the state of michigan. if the workers in this country cannot look to michigan like they always have, for a decent pay, and i think that is where we are headed, i just think it is a sad day. all the people who voted for these republicans, they are going to get what they asked for. this is what is going on here. i really sad about it. host: the car czar for michiga
. >> larry, at the white house we have a flurry of activity on the fiscal cliff. exchange of offers and not sure how much real progress there is. but we'll have the details. >> and optimism. and the fed driving the market higher. first time since mid october. the kudlow report begins right now. >> all right but we begin with the breaking news coming out of michigan where republican governor snyder just signed into law a right to work bill. lawmakers passed it today despite thousands of union workers who came to protest. we have the late ev. good evening ron. this one got pretty rowdy didn't it? >> it did indeed. but because there were two arrests as we are told. two people tried to storm into the governor's office building across the street. police were happy with how folks hafed themselves today. probably 10,000 probably a smaller group than we saw in wisconsin last year when that issue blew up in neighboring wisconsin. today i spoke to the governor who said this is not about the charges coming from the leadership. he said this is about fairness and giving workers the right to choo
washington today, trying to build public support for a fiscal cliff agreement. it came a day after he resumed talking with the top house republican, and as a year-end deadline moved even closer. the president took his public campaign for a deficit deal on his terms to the daimler diesel plant in redford michigan. >> if congress doesn't act soon meaning in the next few weeks, starting on january 1, everybody is going to see their income taxes go up. it's true. y'all don't like that? >> no! woodruff: instead, mr. obama again pressed for raising tax rates on the top two percent of incomes. >> and that's a principle i won't compromise on because i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me, get to keep all our tax breaks and then we're asking students to pay higher student loans. >> woodruff: his michigan visit came a day after the president and house speaker john boehner met privately at the white house. their first one-on-one session since the election. neither side gave any details about what was discussed. instead they issued identical statements sa
tonight, we'll update negotiations aimed at avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> ifill: then, we look at michigan's debate over right-to- work laws which would prevent labor unions from requiring membership. >> woodruff: paul solman explores the tax deductions that could be on the chopping block in the quest to bring down the deficit. >> we estimate $1.1 trillion a year in revenue the government gives up because of all the tax breaks. that's enough to solve the revenue problem but it's not going to happen. >> ifill: ray suarez has a newsmaker interview with secretary of homeland security janet napolitano. >> you can discuss border security and immigration reform simultaneously now. we don't have to this kind of first this and then that. at this point they actually go together. >> woodruff: special correspondent rick karr reports on the polluted waters that spilled into new york homes and businesses in superstorm sandy, raising health concerns. >> everybody sort of got sick at the same time. all of us sort of attributed it to, well, we're all stressed out. it's very cold. but that said, there is a
, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there is no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. >> and that is the important phrase there, prepared to go off the cliff if there is no agreement on raising those rates. we're going to get to that in a minute. utah republican senator orrin hatch fired back and said, quote this, is one of the most stunning and irresponsible statements i've heard in some time. the american people want us to find a reasonable path forward not to rattle our sabers and play this dangerous game. of course, both sides are playing games. they are rattling their sabers. house members streamed out of the capitol and headed out of town wednesday after canceling today's session. they insist nothing will get done until the president makes a counteroffer to what they say is their full fledged proposal for monday. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same peop
that gives workers the right to not pay dues. >> steve: washington can't find a solution to the fiscal cliff . but someone who fixed budgets in the past know it is simple. >> if i raise taxes again i will have to do it in two or four years . people are going to leave. >> steve: find out how america's mayor did it straight ahead. straight ahead. feel a cold coming on? gretchen, you will be better in no time. we'll drink to that. >> you will be better in no time and all of my teases will rhyme today. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: ho, ho, hompt look who is here today eric boling. >> gretchen: you get your own personal lurch. >> eric: good to be here. >> steve: you will find out how booze, beer and wine can make you healthier. the news we have all waited for. >> gretchen: yeah, a lot of people waking up with a headache. now it makes sense why i drank so much last night. overnight a developing story. a medical chopper went down last night leaving three people dead. the chopper which is reggistered to rock ford memorial hospital it went down in a field .
john boehner sent a counteroffer to president obama to fend off the fiscal cliff. in a response to an offer made by the white house yesterday, we go to rich edson from washington, d.c. with the latest. rich, any response from the white house on this? >> still working on that. aids say in exchhnge of proposals taken place, some movement, but still major differences between the white house and speaker's office. fox news reports the speaker and president just spoke on the phone. white house folks say there's a sign of movement. a senior house aide says the white house reduced the demand for tax revenue increases from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion, well short of the latest republican offer of $800 billion, though, there is another offer on the table from republicans that the details are unknown. boehner spokesman says we acceptability the white house a counteroffer to achieve reform to solve the crisis. we're still waiting for the white house to identify which spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach. fox news is reporting senior white house o
scott is an upand coming star . jimdemint's personal pick. >> steve: jay carny. the fiscal cliff thing. the average person really has no idea what that stands for. if you watch that. >> brian: you much the package. >> steve: no idea. something we learned about in school . i forgot about it. jay carny revealed yesterday. gretchen just said it is not a tax problem it is the way they waste our money. jay carny said deficit reduction is not the goal. are you kidding? here he is. >> deficit reduction is not the goal here. the reason to get our fiscal house in order and the reason to pass a deficit reduction package that is balanced and allows for economic growth is to put our economy on a sustainable fiscal path which again, in itself produces positive economic benefits and revenues are part of it this. the president put forth and entitlement reforms and savings gleaned from our health care entitlement programs need to be a part of it. the president has been specific about that. >> brian: he's talking about generalitiys about unnamed cuts. jay carny goes on to admit if the president's propo
for dealing with the fiscal cliff in detroit. connell: peter barnes is in d.c. with the very latest on all of this. peter: neither side is dishing on the meeting yesterday afternoon. both sides issuing identical statement that said "the lines of communication remain open." the best strategy for republicans may be to swallow some higher tax rates, get that issue off the table and then come back to entitlement reform early next year when the president asks for an increase in the debt ceiling. then republicans will have a little more leverage. >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory. i think it has merit. you give the president the 2% increase that he is talking about. there is a growing body. i believe that maybe the best route for us to take. peter: this afternoon, the president will speak in detroit. he will be speaking at and engine company, detroit diesel. obama aides said the company will also announce $100 million new investment and production as part of the president visit. dagen and connell. dagen: thank you very much, peter. peter barnes in washington. connell: groups of union
or no deal boomerangs and hurts republicans? >>guest: i don't want to go off the fiscal cliff which congress created in a bipartisan way. this fiscal cliff is the direct result of the last fiscal cliff when we had the debt limit showdown. >>neil: both sides agreed. >>guest: i voted again i. why create the artificial crisis as a way to force action? it never works. >>neil: bethis. they did. >>guest: and now they are going to do it again. they are saying, now, hurt growth in america, cut a deal that hurts growth in america so in a year from now we will have a worst fiscal cliff and that is the real fiscal cliff $16 trillion debt which the tax you have 200,000 less jobsve next year and the people voting for that will be responsible and held accountable for the public policy. >>neil: you have been talking about freeing out to the middle-class. for and reason in the last election republicans lost the middle class. they seemed to get stereotypes as the party that appeals only to the well-to-do. what i am asking you, how do you change that? the perception sticks in the eyes of some. >>guest: first
. there are only 23 days left before we dive over the fiscal cliff. republicans say we can avoid it. the president says he has a different plan. the the president doesn't want an agreement or compromise, he wants to get his way. >> what happens if the president does get his way? we'll explore that. >> hello i'm mike in for dave. apparently such a thing as a free lunch. 30 million dollars of your tax dollars were supposed to help kids affected by superstorm sandy. instead all of new york's kids are eating for free. >> clayton: do you think this 90-year-old statue is offensive? take a look at the screen, offensive. a man basically standing on a woman. some people's rights groups do and they're trying to get rid of it. we'll explain. "fox & friends" begins right now. ♪ >> straighten up your socks, mike. >> pulling up the socks, a long four hours. >> alisyn: and get dressed before the show? >> hoyt hoist them up. mike jerrick is in for dave. >> hi, everybody. >> clayton: and get the heisman trophy winner and dave was so jealous, he didn't get so see john am i manziel. >> and freshman. >> alisyn: a
money, and power. lou: the fiscal cliff looks bleak, no news, no deal, no urgency. >> the american people have to be scratching their heads, and wondering when is this president gointo get serious. lou: obama is serious about his ultimatum and demands to raise taxes, boehner said no new taxes, obama can have his tantrum, the a-team weighs in. >> and president's job czar has a healthy respect for government efficiency, at least in china, ge's ceo's stunning analysis of the communist economic and political system. record finds for wall street's money laundering bank of record, mexican drug cartels, middle east terrorists, african dictators all among hsbc's clientele, and no one is going to jail? why not? legal experts join us here next >> british banking giant, hsbc agreed to pay a record dollars 1.9 billion to settle allegations it landerred money from mexican drug lords, and sanctions transactions from iran illegally. lenny brewer said that the scale of hsbc's operation was stunning. >> at least one occasion, hsbc instructed a bank in iran on how to format payment messages so that
. >> the house speaker, john boehner, is speaking now on the house floor regarding the fiscal cliff. let's take a listen. >> beyond 1:50 p.m. today. >> the speaker of the house for five minutes. >> the speaker, last week republicans made a serious offer to avert the fiscal cliff, and most of it was based on testimony given last year by president clinton's former chief of staff erskine bolles. as he said on sunday, we have to cut spending. well, he is right. washington has a spending problem. let's be honest, we're broke, and the plan that we've offered is consistent with the president's call for a balanced approach. a lot of people know that the president and i met on sunday. it was a nice meeting. cordal. we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. you know, where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. here's what we do know. we know that the president wants more stimul
on the table from both sides to avoid the fiscal cliff. so big question, do they add up? >>> plus, it has been three months to the day since terrorists attacked the u.s. mission in benghazi. secretary of state hillary clinton says the administration has done everything possible but still, no one has been brought to justice. where do we stand? >>> also, a new hollywood movie highlights the work of a cia analyst credited with tracking down osama bin laden, but here's a big but, it also sheds some very serious light on in-fighting in the spy agency. you got to hear it to believe it. let's go "outfront." >>> i'm ashleigh banfield in tonight for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, our top developing story, we are just learning now that president obama and the white house or rather, president obama and the house speaker have spoken tonight. good news. this after they each fired another shot in the ongoing fight over how to resolve this fiscal cliff mess. cnn is now getting details about two new offers that were made and previously undisclosed, too. they kept a pretty tight lid on them. one of them by
in that thing that rhymes with fiscal cliff. while that's going on and will keep going on for a while, your united states senate is haggling over something that might be even more important to the health of the republic, at least if in the future we want to, i don't know, solve any problems ever. i'm speaking, of course, of that great scourge the filibuster. that senate only rule that allows any senator in the majority or the minority to force legislation to pass not by the standard 51 votes, but by 60. which for most bills means certain death. rarely do 60 senators agree on anything. and over the last few years, the use and abuse of the filibuster, mainly but not exclusively by republicans, has reached record-breaking senate stopping heights. so what do you do? if you are harry reid, lead other telephone democrats in the senate, you try to reform it. and if you're mitch mcconnell, the republican leader who is using it all the time because it is your main kind of power you try to stop reform of it. now there are a couple of plans for changing the fill buster to make it less common or more d
incomes. significant increases in both are scheduled. as you think about the fiscal cliff and what is coming, one of the few places you can see people responding to it is in their behavior around capital gains and dividends. companies are moving up to how, shareholders take a vintage of a lower rate. i expect you will see more investors realize lower capital gains in order to get lower rates. there is clearly money there. there is clearly money that has interesting, distributional characteristics. as you think about the political process trying to structure when a package with a revenue goal and a distribution goal, my prediction is you will see at least some of those increases occur. i personally would be surprised if the dividend rate went back up to ordinary rates. the senate would allow it to stay at the capital gains rate, and go it to 15% to 20%. the president initially proposed cutting dividends they the same as capital gains. my guess would be that that is where we end up. >> what would you say is best? should the dividend be the same as capital gains tax >> i find it hard.
broadly described under the umbrella of the terminology, fiscal cliff. when we confront those difficult challenges, we have to ask ourselves a couple of basic questions. one of the basic questions we must ask is, what will be the result and will be the impact as it relates to middle income families? what will happen to them in the midst of all these tough issues we have to work out? we know there is broad agreement that going over the so-called fiscal cliff would jeopardize the economic recovery. it would do that by increasing taxes on families, halting employment growth, driving unemployment up instead of down, triggering a deep cuts to programs that families across the country count on. the job before the united states congress is to reach an agreement that builds on the economic progress that we are making, and puts us on a path to fiscal stability. we need to cut more spending, and generate more revenue. we need to do it in a smart way that keeps our economy growing. earlier this year, congress extended the payroll tax cut through 2012. the two percentage point payroll tax cut has p
of course and the prospect of increased taxes as we get closer to the fiscal cliff. looks like everybody's taxes are going up no matter how this thing is comes out. consumer spending accounts for more than 2/3 of economic output. especially important at this time of year of course when a lot of sectors in all of these areas have been struggling, here is a bit of good news. martha: okay. take it. bill: not a lot. if you're driving on the road, thanks to shrinking demand manned lower fuel prices gas is sinking like a stone. a drop of 34 cents in the past month. in st. louis, drivers paying just over $3. even l.a. is paying 3.68. which is below four bucks where they have been for a very long time. even further drops expected in the coming days. martha: a devastating loss this morning. jennie rivera, the mexican american singer on the verge of crossing over to this country in u.s. popularity is presumed to have been killed when a private plane crashed in monterrey, mexico. authorities have not confirmed her debt. her relatives say they have few doubts she was on board that plane. she was hea
on the fiscal cliff. this morning a leading republican said any deal should include the major drivers of our debt. >> the long-term indebtedness of this country is baby boomers retiring putting pressure on medicaid, medicare and social security. i hope my party will look out for the country and not just the party itself and pure this president to do something he has never done before, lead in a bipartisan way. >> reporter: a little swipe there at the end but republicans have been consistent that it is important to address entitlement reform, something they very much want on the table if we're going to have a big deal in this fiscal cliff matter. jon? jon: on the democratic side it seems like they are holding firm on being sure that there is additional tax revenue in any fiscal cliff deal, right? >> jon, no question about that. they have been consistent from the very beginning. the president ran on the upper income americans paying more taxes as part of this deal. we heard more from chuck schumer on "fox news sunday". >> we democrats realize that there have to be two sides to this bargain but
and knock me out. apple. if we're going off the fiscal cliff, we know capital gains tax rates are going higher, right? right? that's obvious. do you really think the republicans have the power to keep those capital gains rates down? apple's become a referendum on the president's power and polling. right now he has the upper hand, then he can really roll them and intends to do so. it's reasonable to take some profits so you can pay the tax man less now rather than more later. it's a wimpy thing, it's logical, makes perfect economic sense. especially if you hold apple. so the stock gets hammered. it makes sense to sell it. but let's be less emotional and even clinical about this one. first, divide apple's share price by ten, now you have a stock that got crushed down to $54. when you do that arithmetic, it isn't all that scary, is it? where does the pessimism fit in? when we have to endure the pin the tail on the selloff game, what excuses for the selloff, myriad alibis i hear from today's action. apple's losing share to google, it doesn't have the right phones in europe, nokia's making a
like adults and reach an agreement here on the fiscal cliff, the upside is much higher even than the downside is if we don't. that is what we should be looking forward to. we should do that now. think of how many people out there making a judgment of whether or not they will spend another $300 on christmas gifts if they think next month they are going to have $260 less in their paycheck. thank you all very much. thank you all. good luck to you. good luck. thank you. than kyou k you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> this past thursday, south carolina and senator jim demint announced he is retiring from the senate. his colleague and fellow south carolina senator lindsey graham pay him tribute on the senate floor. >> madam president, i met with jim demint this morning. to say i was stunned is an understatement. jim indicated to me that he will be retiring from the senate next year and taking over the presidency of the heritage foundation, one of the great conservative think-tanks here in washington. m
for the worst if negotiations fail to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> one possibility in all of this, simply no agreement. the impact on the government and every single american taxpayer. it's thursday, december 6th. >> announcer: from abc news, this is "world news now." >>> good thursday morning. >> morning. >> i'm paula faris. we did establish morning is spelled m-e-r-n-i-n-g. >> m-e-r-n-i-n-g. nicely done. >> "merning," everybody. >> i'm rob nelson. we'll get to the discouraging situation on the fiscal cliff in just a moment. and we do have even a visual this morning. >> not yet. >> going to wait for it? very high tech. >> so high tech. working on this prop all day. all morning. >> weeks of planning. >>> we also have a major development in the case of software mogul john mcafee he was actually arrested last night. and this morning, police are taking more action after he tried to seek asylum in guatemala. a strange story gets even stranger. again he is now under arrest. >> bizarre to the nth degree there. >> yeah. >>> also this morning -- weeding through all the details on washington state
. >> this was a good rehearsal. >> i forget we were on tv. >> boom! >> you want me to tell you about the fiscal cliff? >> you get that extra half hour to work things out? show prep? >> we have a good show. >>> how about right to work? thousands of people are expected to converge on the mischigan state capitol in lansing as part of a sfwlooempts going to be interesting. steve. >> are we going to be serious? >> am i asking you about pot or gl growing the economy. growing weed or the economy. >> republican lawmakers are trying to push through this right to work. >> this is interesting actually. michigan is a heavily unionized state so why would it be going right to work. there's enormous downward pressure on wages on american companies around the world that can make things cheaper elsewhere than here and our wages are uncompetitive in a lot of ways. in effect what people in michigan have to decide, do you want fewer jobs at higher wages or lower jomore jobs at lower w they have decided they want more jobs. >> you look at michigan and detroit, that's a pretty easy answer. >> the unemployment rate. >> the
's mind right now. with about four weeks to go before that fiscal cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts gets triggered, negotiations still appeared at a standstill on tuesday. karin caifa tells us where everything stands. >> in the midst of a standoff with capitol hill republicans, president obama told bloomberg news that the latest plan put forth by house speaker john boehner, simply doesn't add up. the >> speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about, for example, eight hundred billion dollars worth of revenues but he says he will do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it does does not work. >> not work. as negotiations as negotiations to avoid the so-called "fiscal cliff" continue, republicans were equally dismissive of the last proposal from the president. >> his proposal was so outlandish i don't think we should go back to the table until he puts something there that we can work with. >> the key sticking point between the two sides hasn't changed -- tax rates for the wealthy. >> the math is clear. the only way to accomplish these things
at the white house for another round of talks to avert the fiscal cliff. both sides say they're keeping the lines of communications open but no word of a break through. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors trying to break the stalemate that threatens to take the country over the fiscal cliff in just over three weeks. one by one republicans are bowing to the president's demand that taxes go up for the wealthy. >> will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before you're in. i mean, we have one house that's it. the presidency and the senate in the democrat's hand. >> since we agree with the democrats 98% of the people and 08% of the bush tax cuts i would get that off the table now. >> democrats insist taxes are going up on the rich no matter what. >> if you don't increase tax rates on the highest 2% of income owners you cannot generate enough revenue to have meaningful deficit reduction. >> republicans want big spending can you tell us to programs. >>
're fiscal cliff cliff fatigued to death. it's a real turnoff and we know it, but i want to address the issue in big picture terms with you because you're big picture thinker. i think at the end of the day we will have higher taxes on wealthy people, promises to cut spending somewhere down the road and don't worry about the debt, ignore it it. i think that's the outline of a big picture deal. what do you say? >> i sort of agree, stuart. there will be higher taxes. i do think the republicans will extract a couple of entitle reformat. a new way to calculate the cost of living adjustment and social security, maybe a higher payment by beneficiaries who are wealthier in medicare and finally the last point you make is the really intriguing one, that's the debt ceiling. and my hunch is the republicans will cave on taxes and they'll come back to fight again later in the winter on the debt ceiling and they could really extract major spending cuts by late winter. >> so you don't think the president will get the blank check that he wants, no debt ceiling? he wants no debt ceiling, you don't think he'll
, but he is also wrong it is about money as well. big money, and power. lou: the fiscal cliff looks bleak, no news, no deal, no urgency. >> the american people have to be scratching their heads, and wondering when is this president going to get serious. lou: obama is serious about his ultimatum and demands to raise taxes, boehner said no new taxes, obama can have his tantrum, the a-team weighs in. >> and president's job czar has a healthy respect for government efficiency, at least in china, ge's ceo's stunning analysis of the communist economic and political system. record finds for wall street's money laundering bank of record, mexican drug cartels, middle east terrorists, african dictators all among hsbc's clientele, and no one is going to jail? why not? legal experts join us here next. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which inclus investment objectives, risks, charges an
are back. talks continue on capitol hill to avoid the fiscal cliff. but where is it all going? house speaker john boehner went to the floor and spoke about his meeting with president obama for the first time. boehner and the president sat down over the weekend. boehner says the meeting was nice and cordial but went on to attack the president's offer on spending cuts. >> we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. right now the american people have to be scratching their heads and wondering when is the president going to get serious? >> boehner and his far right caucus may find the offer unacceptable, but president obama has put a lot on the table. nancy pelosi hit back at boehner's rhetoric today. >> the fact is, the president has and democrats agree, to $1.6 trillion cuts. where are the cuts? in bills that you, mr. speaker, have voted for. >> pelosi is lo
thing. >> dana: 4:45. >> eric: we haven't talked about in a long time, the fiscal cliff. the only way you really talk about the fiscal cliff, might be this way. >> ♪ fiscal cliff, you know the time has come ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ and it won't be sparing anyone ♪ ♪ you'll see ♪ you'll see >> eric: you accept it for me on twitter. i love it. keep it coming. >> bob: who is that? >> eric: todd chappelle. >> dana: i have something also about the fiscal cliff. something you haven't heard about is rural america is under threat from a major raise in taxes. death and state taxes. throw up the map. senator from wyoming put this out. 526,421 family farms threatened by the new death tax. mostly because assets are tied up in land. you're land rich and cash poor. this hurts a lot of people. >> greg: this plays in the old phrase buying the farm. >> dana: it plays in something i want to tease for friday, which is i am -- i got to buy the farm. get it. think we haven't heard that. >> bob: promote something? >> dana: on friday, tomorrow i'm going to vegas and i'm going to the national rodeo -- the nat
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